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Brandon Moreno of Mexico and Kai Kara France of New Zealand face off during the UFC 245 Ultimate Media Day at the Red Rock Casino Resort

Coach Conversations | Brandon Moreno vs Kai Kara-France 2

Marc Montoya And Sean Madden Answer The Biggest Questions Around UFC 277's Co-Main Event, Moreno vs Kara-France 2

Ahead of every championship fight, UFC staff writer E. Spencer Kyte will sit down with some of the sharpest coaching minds in the sport to break down the action and provide UFC fans with insights into each championship pairing from the men that spend their days getting these elite athletes prepared to compete on the biggest stage in the sport.

For UFC 277, Kyte called upon Marc Montoya, the head coach at Factory X Muay Thai, and striking coach Sean Madden, who is currently freelancing after spending several years with the Elevation Fight Team.

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This time around, the tandem talk about the interim flyweight championship fight between Brandon Moreno and Kai Kara-France that serves as Saturday’s co-main event. The pair previously faced off at UFC 245, with Moreno winning a unanimous decision with scores of 29-28, 30-27, and 29-28, but now they’ve got two more rounds to work with.

Best Trait of Each Fighter

Brandon Moreno of Mexico stares down Kai Kara-France of New Zealand in their flyweight bout during the UFC 245 event

LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - DECEMBER 14: (R-L) Brandon Moreno of Mexico stares down Kai Kara-France of New Zealand in their flyweight bout during the UFC 245 event at T-Mobile Arena on December 14, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Jeff Bottari/Zuffa LLC)

Kyte: At a time in the sport where everyone is pretty solid everywhere, generally speaking, what is the one thing that each of these competitors do better than anyone else?

Montoya: I think what won Moreno the title is his ability to get to the body lock. He’s a good striker, he’s obviously got a good ground game, but the thing that he won the title from was the body lock; he transitioned into the body lock and took a lot of power away from Deiveson (Figueiredo) and put him on his back.

Whether he kept him there didn’t matter — it’s that he constantly put him there, especially in the first fight they had. His ability to slow a fight down and control it on top is absolutely something that is a great trait that he has, for sure.

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With Kai, his patience and power are impressive at ’25. As you start to get higher in weight, they all start to carry that power, but at the lower weights, they don’t all carry power in their hands, and so he’s got good power and good patience in his hands. He can put anybody out with one punch and that’s a good trait to have, especially at that weight class.

Madden: The best trait for Kai is that he’s just f***** game bred.

Where he comes from, the team that he’s with, he loves to f****** be in there and loves to fight. You can certainly say the same thing for Moreno and where he comes from, what he’s come through as well, but I think Kai really embodies that in his fights. He’s never going to back down from a gunfight.

For Moreno, he’s got a lot of them, but his speed and ability to punch in combinations is going to be really important for him in this fight.

Path to Victory for Each Fighter

Everyone would love a 10-second knockout or a quick submission, but that’s not often how these things go, especially not at the championship level. Instead, it’s usually the competitor that has crafted the better game plan and did the better job of executing things inside the Octagon that comes away with their hand raised and the gold around their waist.

So, how does either man get it done on Saturday night?

Madden: From Brandon, he’s going to have to stay behind his jab and use his speed. I think one weapon that we saw that worked for him in that last fight was that left kick, so if he can mix up his weapons again on the feet, I think he’s shown that he has a little more diversity in his weapons.

I think, for him, using the diversity of strikes on the feet could end up resulting in a victory for him.

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For Kai, he’s got to put Moreno on the back foot. Fighting is about momentum, and Kai’s going to have to steal momentum early — push Brandon back and keep his momentum; not stay at Moreno’s range, because I think he’s the faster puncher, the faster striker.

Montoya: With Moreno, if he fights Kai similarly to how he fought Deiveson and blends his body lock into his striking and all the unorthodox stuff that he does on the feet, especially the first fight, that’s his path to victory, for sure.

Obviously, Kai defending any mid- to short-range weapons of Moreno and not getting put on his back and neutralized to where his power is gone is the clear path for him. The defense of the takedown against (Askar) Askarov is different than the defense of the takedown against Moreno, so the question is ‘Can he defend that type of finish from the feet to the ground?’

If he can, he has to utilize his power and cut off the cage in order to pin Moreno in and find an opportunity to set his feet.

X Factor

Kai Kara-France of New Zealand strikes at Brandon Moreno of Mexico in their flyweight bout during the UFC 245 event

LAS VEGAS, NEVADA - DECEMBER 14: Kai Kara-France of New Zealand strikes at Brandon Moreno of Mexico in their flyweight bout during the UFC 245 event at T-Mobile Arena on December 14, 2019 in Las Vegas, Nevada. (Photo by Jeff Bottari/Zuffa LLC)

Kyte: If there were one thing that was going to significantly impact how this fight plays out — that swings it in one direction or the other — what would it be?

Montoya: If Kai gets controlled like Deiveson did, it could be a long night for Kai, but if he can defend it and do his thing like he did against Askarov — stay at range and pin him with pressure; fight him in a triangle — it could be a great night for him.

It’s a huge fight for these two!

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Madden: I’m actually really interested — Brandon has been training with (James) Krause, right? This is his first fight under him?

For me, looking at it from a coaching standpoint, I’m really interested to see — I don’t think we’re necessarily going to see technical adjustments for Moreno — any time a fighter of championship caliber comes to you, you’re not necessarily going to be making technical adjustments — but I do think Krause is a really great coach in terms of making tactical and strategic adjustments, and I think we’ll be able to see that over the five rounds.

I’m excited to see what those adjustments look like training under Krause for this fight because I do think it could be an X factor in this fight.

One Coaching Curiosity

Kyte: Coaches see the sport differently and look at the sport differently than anyone else, picking up on different things and paying attention to movements, habits, or intangible pieces that others might not notice, but that could have a significant impact on the action inside the Octagon.

Every matchup offers its own unique collection of elements that might pique a coach’s interest and get them paying a little closer attention to once the fight gets underway.

So what is that one thing in this matchup?

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Montoya: Knowing both of them very well because we’ve prepared for them and then just being a student of the game, the thing I look for is do they look like the same version or are they going to be a different version of who they’ve been with little sprinkles of different on top of what they’ve done?

That’s one of the things I look for a lot, especially with guys that are in the same divisions as the UFC fighters that I have. I watch to see if those kids are continually growing or are they bringing the same stuff every fight?

Madden: I would love to see a little more body work and leg work from Kai, especially over the five rounds. He’s known for his right hand, landing that, and he hurt Brandon with it in the first fight in the first round, but if you’re a one-trick pony, that can get figured out, especially over five rounds.

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What I’m hoping to see from Kai early in the fight and building on it is more body work and leg work to ultimately set up the right hand. I’m going to be keeping an eye on a little more patience from Kai with the right hand, using a couple other weapons, and attacking all three levels to set that shot up.

From Brandon, I’m looking for that left kick again and for him to work off his jab. He did it real well in the first fight — he’d land the jab, feint, and come with a 3-2 right after it, and he had some success with that. I’m looking for him to keep that left kick up.

Coming from a Muay Thai background, I love to see that left kick, especially against an opponent that has a strong right hand because it’s a fantastic weapon to shut that right hand down — when he’s kicking high, Kai has got to keep that right hand home to block that kick. So I’d love to see him spam that left kick to the head and the body, and build off his jab, too.


Marc Montoya is the head coach of Factory X Muay Thai in Englewood, Colorado, and leads a team that includes flyweight standout Brandon Royval and surging veteran Dustin Jacoby. He’ll be in the corner of Anthony Smith on Saturday night as “Lionheart” takes on Magomed Ankalaev.

Sean Madden teaches Muay Thai at Easton Training Center in Denver, Colorado and was a long-time coach with the Elevation Fight Team. Currently freelancing, he most recently worked with Lauren Murphy ahead of her dominant victory over Miesha Tate at UFC Long Island.

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